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finally, after much of the nagging and the bugging and the fighting and the pissing off, my mom has given me permission to get a drumset. if i can find a place in the basement(oy...) to put it and i don't bang around too much then i can do it. and i buy it.
any suggestions for a beginner set? i don't want anything spectacular. just something i can jam with my band on. pretty much a set that isn't a piece of crap, and doesn't cost much...
you may want to also invest in a set of silencers for your kit. Your mom will appreciate it. :D
didnt think about that....good idea. thanks.
If you want a pretty good sound you need to spend around $500.
I would go with one of these...
Tama Imperialstar 5-Piece Standard Drum Set
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Tama-Imperialstar-5pc-Standard-Drum-Set?sku=443207
Yamaha Rydeen 5-Piece Drum Set
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-Rydeen-5Piece-Drum-Set?sku=444622
ddrum Diablo Punx 5-Piece Drum Set with Side Snare Devious
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ddrum-Diablo-Punx-5Piece-Drum-Set-with-Side-Snare-Devious?sku=445245
or you could really cheap and puy "Pulse" but I think they are junk.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/perc/navigation/pro-gold?N=100001+201156
& don't forget you have to get cymbals, throne, & sticks.
pop sucks
03-07-2007, 01:19 AM
I'd rather get an electronic set if you want to practice a lot, otherwise maybe your parents will always tell you to stop playing, because a drumset even in the basement makes a lot of noise and everyone in the house will hear you.
Munkey106
03-07-2007, 09:27 AM
And it's reeeeaaaaally annoying when you practice! (Especially if you're a beginner!)
Gollum
03-07-2007, 12:46 PM
But what's worse, annoying everyone else while you're not that good, or annoying yourself for the next X amount of years because you bought electric drums that aren't a thing like real drums?
Every drummer I know hates electric drums for good reason. They don't play right, and the sound is just never the same. It's worse than a modeling amp for guitar. It's closer to having a big midi kit. You might as well be a drum machine.
But silencers will help, and playing with hot rods helps too, but the tone of hot rods isn't the greatest.
I'd personally say it's more important to spend good money on your cymbals than kit because the sound difference is more noticeable to non drummers/musicians. One of the better drummers I know doesn't make a ton of cash, so he's just got a basic kit, high hat, and a ride. Just his high hat and ride are worth nearly $600, but they sound great.
And as in most cases, if you can get something used in good shape all the better, because that will save a bit of money in the end. It's always much easier to get decent gear for an affordable price when it's used.
But take this all with a grain of salt, because I'm not truly a drummer.
Munkey106
03-07-2007, 12:56 PM
I got a nice Mapex set for $250 with cymbals and everything! (Used and in GREAT condition)...You gotta catch the deals while you can!
PhoenixRising
03-07-2007, 04:56 PM
I have a cool Tama (swingstar i think) that is very cool. I highly recommend it :-]
pop sucks
03-08-2007, 02:29 PM
Every drummer I know hates electric drums for good reason. They don't play right, and the sound is just never the same. It's worse than a modeling amp for guitar. It's closer to having a big midi kit. You might as well be a drum machine.
You are right, they don't sound right, but does the sound even matter when you practice drums? When you practice guitar, the sound matters because you actually make the tone with your fingers and if something sounds bad it might be that you play bad, which is why you need to keep your guitar well adjusted and practice with clean and distorted sound to make sure what you play sounds well.
But with a drumset, you just hit something, it doesn't have to sound good for you to be able to practice your skills, at least for beginners. Probably, if you want to do jazz drumming, it would not really be possible to do that with an electronic set. I've always thought the only thing that you needed to invest a lot in was pedals, because to build a good foot technique, you need good pedals. To build good skills with your arms, you just need your arms and something to hit on...
Gollum
03-08-2007, 09:10 PM
well in that case it'd be better to recommend practice pads since electric drums are rather expensive for what they are.
Buddy rich used to practice on a pillow.
PhoenixRising
03-09-2007, 07:58 AM
^He must have been desperate...
Whatever you end up getting (assuming its acoustic), invest in silencers
Buy a Remo practice kit (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Remo-5Piece-Practice-Pad-Set?sku=442963) and convert it into electronic triggers by following these steps (http://edrum.for.free.fr/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=32)
Munkey106
03-10-2007, 03:20 AM
^ That's so awesome
magazines work as silencers too if you're desperate enough.
the EDGE
03-10-2007, 02:47 PM
lol good on JaQ
k, thanks for the advice hopefully ill be able to get the money to get a good set.... surprisingly enough the lead guitarist of my band is giving me the impression she doesnt want me to get a set...she wants me to practice at her house...and ive never even been to her house.
g4teamg
03-26-2007, 04:24 PM
Practice pad. Learn rudiments. Learn time. Buy a metronome. Now go audition others for your band.
PhoenixRising
03-26-2007, 04:26 PM
k, thanks for the advice hopefully ill be able to get the money to get a good set.... surprisingly enough the lead guitarist of my band is giving me the impression she doesnt want me to get a set...she wants me to practice at her house...and ive never even been to her house.
ummmm..that's weird....do u like live with her or something?? how are you supposed to practice when you're not at her house?
saves money i'll admit...but still...lol
g4teamg
03-26-2007, 04:26 PM
Oh, and look into these. Your neighbors (and mom) will thank you.
http://www.hqpercussion.com/
I have the soundoffs from HQ for my kit.
I live in a townhouse and I met one of my neighbors a few weeks after moving in. We were talking one day. he asked me if his kids were too loud when they would play. I told him I could just hear them once in a while, like when they would kick the wall. Then I asked him if my drums bothered him. His reply was, "You've got drums?" I guess they work pretty well if my neighbor doesn't hear them.
Altruist
03-27-2007, 12:52 AM
I'd rather get an electronic set if you want to practice a lot, otherwise maybe your parents will always tell you to stop playing, because a drumset even in the basement makes a lot of noise and everyone in the house will hear you.
Personally, I wish I had an acoustic rather than an electronic, though it's just not practical until I'm out of college and living in a house rather than an apartment. Anyways, electronics are alot more expensive than acoustics and probably a bad thing for beginners since the feel is somewhat different, especially on a cheaper kit (and I have the feeling she's not going to want to spend $4 or $5k to get an ultra-realistic roland kit... :D )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbQ9xcCS5SE
Take lessons from Alex and you'll be great in no time
ummmm..that's weird....do u like live with her or something?? how are you supposed to practice when you're not at her house?
saves money i'll admit...but still...lol
no, shes just my friend....shes like 15. every time i say something about getting a set shes like "you should just come to my house instead and practice".
JordanW
04-02-2007, 02:36 PM
How much would a decent set of cymbals cost?
sly serpent gentle dove
04-02-2007, 11:33 PM
It depends on what you are looking for. If you want a starter line I'd suggest the Zildijian ZXT pack or the Sabian B8's. To learn i'd suggest a simple crash/ride/hats.
JordanW
04-03-2007, 01:39 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/OSP-DD502-DIGITAL-DRUM-SET-PLUS-AP30-AMPLIFIER-MONITOR_W0QQitemZ110110293872QQcategoryZ64382QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
How would this set work out? There is a video on the page.
refractorhead
04-16-2007, 11:33 PM
You are right, they don't sound right, but does the sound even matter when you practice drums? When you practice guitar, the sound matters because you actually make the tone with your fingers and if something sounds bad it might be that you play bad, which is why you need to keep your guitar well adjusted and practice with clean and distorted sound to make sure what you play sounds well.
But with a drumset, you just hit something, it doesn't have to sound good for you to be able to practice your skills, at least for beginners. Probably, if you want to do jazz drumming, it would not really be possible to do that with an electronic set. I've always thought the only thing that you needed to invest a lot in was pedals, because to build a good foot technique, you need good pedals. To build good skills with your arms, you just need your arms and something to hit on...
the sound i can handle. very very FEW electric sets have adequate response or play. the stcks have a dead response.
It depends on what you are looking for. If you want a starter line I'd suggest the Zildijian ZXT pack or the Sabian B8's. To learn i'd suggest a simple crash/ride/hats.
i have Sabian B8's. yaaay. im borrowing my friend's set.
burningwater
04-21-2007, 03:55 PM
the first set i got was the sabian b8 rock set. they came with a free 15 in AAXplosion crash. now, it's probably the best crash i have. i love it. at musician'sfriend, the price for the set is about $230 i think. the hats and ride are pretty good. i'm not a big fan of the b8 rock crash, but it sound's a bit better from the audience.
Altruist
04-21-2007, 10:44 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/OSP-DD502-DIGITAL-DRUM-SET-PLUS-AP30-AMPLIFIER-MONITOR_W0QQitemZ110110293872QQcategoryZ64382QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
How would this set work out? There is a video on the page.
OSP is pretty much the single worst maker of electronic drum equipment. So, my answer would be not so well.:D
refractorhead
04-28-2007, 02:06 AM
i have Sabian HH all around me
14 HH & 15 HH Brilliant
Tallerthanatree
06-17-2007, 10:48 PM
k, thanks for the advice hopefully ill be able to get the money to get a good set.... surprisingly enough the lead guitarist of my band is giving me the impression she doesnt want me to get a set...she wants me to practice at her house...and ive never even been to her house.
Get reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally good. Like, Hellhammer good. Then your band will be awesome.
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