Man Jesus Christ

[kenblaster5000]

Hey what do you think of this attempt to deceive the sheep. Type in this title as keywords over the internet, and give us your opinion of this freak. I think he is an idiot.

[kenblaster5000]

Actually, this comes up now under his name Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda. Try that name and share with us your thoughts on him. Is this the end times? I know this guy is a fake, but is Satan going to throw these idiots at us, or will it get more challenging. Also, try youtube. com, and type in his name. It will also have a place where you can share with the world what you think, because there are alot of dummies that have taken the bait.

[Atlas]

Here's a homepage for the guy. He's among us - Yay America!
http://www.cegenglish.com/

There is a small FAQ where he deals with the question of being a false Christ.
http://www.creciendoengracia.com/naciones/falsechrists.htm

False Christs

Mathew 24:24 - Mark 13:22

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Notice how this verse states that the false Christs will come performing what? signs and wonders, The Apostle Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda has not appeared to perform signs and wonders...

Sooo... He sounds like the real deal to me. That, my friends, is logic. False Christs perform signs and wonders... He just performs and wonders if you'll be like the Jews and miss what's right before your eyes.

I would go myself but it sounds too churchy.

[kenblaster5000]

Well, we know this guy is not the true Jesus Christ. The deception is not too hard there, yet 130 pastors follow him. People are signing there business over to him, and some give as much as 80% of their income to this guy. What he teaches is not biblical. He twists the scriptures around and preaches as though he thinks he has divine wisdom. If anything, this guy is a false teacher. By the way, I think there might be 130 pastor job openings, if any one is interested.

[IronGuardian]

For arguments sake, how do we know hes not the true Jesus Christ?

[Atlas]

For arguments sake, how do we know hes not the true Jesus Christ?

At first I thought, "I don't see any nail hole scars through his hand", but maybe after a couple thousand years those things heal up - or maybe he healed himself.

Then I thought. "Who wants a Lord who promised to return in power and glory when the power is his earthly voice and his glory is televised adoration."

The answer seems to be: Millions!

Still, I think the Jews missed Jesus precisely because of their misinterpretation of the Messiah's appearence in power and glory. Yahweh can be tricksie.

[jafa kree]

this is interesting

[GothDad]

When it's all over (i.e., when this guy grows old and dies without re-establishing the Throne of David in Jerusalem, etc., etc.), there are going to be a lot of people who finally realize they've been complete fools.

Peace,

Jeff

[the EDGE]

man there are many JC's hasn't your old man ever called you that either.....lol...sorry I had to joke about this nonsense. Are we reaching so far out that we have to actually ask. Bible says test the Spirit, what did yours say before you brought this up?

[Rami Airola]

Wow, that's one of the funniest things ever! :D

[Dave1973]

Charles Manson also claimed to be Jesus Christ. So did a lot of other wackos. The Bible says that when Christ returns, he will come from the clouds, and everyone will see Him. I never saw this Miranda dude in the clouds, did any of you? Plus, there will be many false Christs and false prophets before the real Christ's return. This guy is a fake, and people are giving him thier money. Just a scammer.

[Whiplash]

Oh my Gosh!?. Does that dude actually think he is Jesus Christ.

[Via Crucis]

This guy is a charlatan and an idiot...and I only spent about 90 seconds on that page.

[Atlas]

It's not only his blatant charlatanism VC, certainly the credulity of the masses is part of the story. How easy it is to be led astray on the invisible things that lift the faithful.

[Siege]

It was predicted that guys like him would come. And that they would deceive lots of christians. And if he already got 130 pastors to follow him it looks like he's succeeding.

Just be patient. When the real Jesus Christ comes everyone will know that it is Him. :)

[notdoneyet]

He seems to just be hungry for attention. Jesus wasn't that way. Plus just by looking at the front page of his website, you can tell his misusing scripture.

[notdoneyet]

Oh an another thing. After watching the videos linked on his site, I think the following are very sketchy:

1.) says to not pray any more
2.) claims there is no heaven, no hell, no devil, nor is there any sin
3.) claims to be born sinless because there is no longer sin...but if you follow that thinking than everyone has been born sinless since Jesus died on the cross and therefore commiting no sin while you are alive would apply to everyone and not make him special.
4.) says many things in the bible are wrong but is quick to accept money. He claims it's like whne Jesus allowed the women to use expensive perfume on his feet..but Jesus did not accept alot of material goods like this guy is.
5.) He went from a heroin addict, to a convict and now to saying he's Jesus..very sketchy.

The big problem with all this is that he has alot of followers and his mission is to get rid of all other religions. They're peaceful now about protests but this could get way out of hand eventually.

[Mindlessinside]

The first thing i thought when i saw the site was: 'he doesnt look like Jesus.'

Then i remembered that i dont know what Jesus looks like.

Anyway, compared with the character of Jesus we know from the bible, his mercy and his grace, this guy is just a real idiot. I mean; 'See the Man Jesus Christ live this Saturday the 23rd....'

come on. seriously.

[Shredhead]

For arguments sake, how do we know hes not the true Jesus Christ?
Well the first glaring contradiction I see is , He didn't return in the clouds .

[xSamEatsAirplanex]

Is it not written somewhere that when Jesus comes we will know that it's him?

[xSamEatsAirplanex]

Also, would Jesus make himself a homepage with an American flag in the background? So much for equality.

[BrotherWes]

Beware

[chewy]

i think theres like 50 people who r supposed to be the antichrist or the real Christ... its so confusing!

[Siege]

I didn't even bother going to his website. It's just so obvious that this guy is a fake. And I'm glad everyone else here sees it too.

[xSamEatsAirplanex]

Sorry, i'm only 12, what's a charlatan? Theyre a band aren't they?

[IronGuardian]

A charlatan is someone who decieves other people by pretending to know and be things which they aren't. They occasionaly use tricks to fool people into beliveing they are the real thing.

[ToddB]

how to tell if someone is true.....they must measure up to the rules God set, if they don't add up.....they aren't real.I believe they (those rules) can be found between Gen and Deut)

[kenblaster5000]

man there are many JC's hasn't your old man ever called you that either.....lol...sorry I had to joke about this nonsense. Are we reaching so far out that we have to actually ask. Bible says test the Spirit, what did yours say before you brought this up?

Hey bro, I brought this up for encouragement that the Lord is coming soon, and to warn people about him. Everyone here seems to have their head on straight. I know that his is a false christ. We have had earthquakes, tons of storms, war, and rumors of war, and at least two false christs in 2 years time. So, that is the encouragement, that the signs are there, and those who are saved are going home soon. Praise the lord.

[the EDGE]

I hear yah but I do not see htis a theology man. This should be in christian talk or something else

[Candlemass]

For arguments sake, how do we know hes not the true Jesus Christ?


Is this some sort of rhetorical question, your kidding, right? :confused:

[notdoneyet]

um hate to break it to you but there have always been wars, earthquakes, people saying they're christ. It's so hard to tell if these things are different than they always have been. That's why it's written that no one will know when the end is coming.

[benj]

Haha, I watched 2 seconds of the video and I noticed hypnotic sounds, pictures, etc. This guy fails.

Why won't someone claim to be the second coming Bigfoot?

[xSamEatsAirplanex]

^haha, good point, and he said "Christ will come with no sin, because sin has gone" or something, and he's only saying that as an excuse to be full of himself. Unbelievable.

[kenblaster5000]

um hate to break it to you but there have always been wars, earthquakes, people saying they're christ. It's so hard to tell if these things are different than they always have been. That's why it's written that no one will know when the end is coming.

Do they occur at about the same time?

[kenblaster5000]

um hate to break it to you but there have always been wars, earthquakes, people saying they're christ. It's so hard to tell if these things are different than they always have been. That's why it's written that no one will know when the end is coming.

Jesus provided these signs for the end. He said it would be right at the door. I know that noone will know when he comes, for he comes like a theif in the night. But, at a time like this, look up. Don't start beating the servant, because he will come when you least expect it.

[mrsbates]

the differencve between the real thing and all these fakes is that almost everyone will belive in the real antichrist when he comes.

[notdoneyet]

Do they occur at about the same time?

every year there's a war somewhere...every year there are earthquakes, the same with other natural occuring disasters. There might be a bit of an increase in deaths due to natural disasters but I think that comes with the increase in population, but these things have always occured and people have always used this idea to say the end is coming.

[KM Richards]

I would go myself but it sounds too churchySo, what's wrong with the Church of Jesus Christ? (aka, the Body of Christ)

[Atlas]

So, what's wrong with the Church of Jesus Christ? (aka, the Body of Christ)

:) It was a joke, but you'd hafta know me.

I am not part of the Body. I'm in church only for weddings and funerals, stuff like that. Lotsa times Christians handle those ceremonies well.

I have ideas on the light we live by. I'm not shy about saying what's wrong with the Church. I actually think I spend too much time doing that. I see a great deal of light in Christianity. Not the Truth, but the truth. Some ideas are tremendous. Some - not so much.

[LadyRocker]

Whether you realize it or not, even the most cynical people like yourself have had experiences with a Living God, and I would dare to say that you may be on your way. A lot of prayer going out that you will come to know that truth, personally.

[kenblaster5000]

um hate to break it to you but there have always been wars, earthquakes, people saying they're christ. It's so hard to tell if these things are different than they always have been. That's why it's written that no one will know when the end is coming.

It is also written, what are the signs of the end of the age? Those earthquakes are signs, tsunamis, Israel a country, and now the president of Iran talking about exterminating the jews. Maybe Hitler was one of the four horsemen. And possibly this nutjob in Iran as well. Or the horsemen could be part of the attack on Israel from every side, but I have to admit the prophesies are unfolding, but I am not going to go sit on a hill like the Nazarenes and wait for the lord immediately. There is work to do. God bless you sister, peace and love, and grace in Jesus Christ keep you.

[notdoneyet]

It is also written, what are the signs of the end of the age? Those earthquakes are signs, tsunamis, Israel a country, and now the president of Iran talking about exterminating the jews. Maybe Hitler was one of the four horsemen. And possibly this nutjob in Iran as well. Or the horsemen could be part of the attack on Israel from every side, but I have to admit the prophesies are unfolding, but I am not going to go sit on a hill like the Nazarenes and wait for the lord immediately. There is work to do. God bless you sister, peace and love, and grace in Jesus Christ keep you.

The Jews have always been persecuted.

[Maerund]

The Jews have always been persecuted.

Word. Anti-semitism didn't start with the Nazis. In fact, they were so successful in their scapegoating because of the widespread anti-semitism that existed.